My Thoughts on Vaccines

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Prepare to agree to disagree, No-Vax folks:

I will have my children vaccinated, God-willing I should have any.

I do not believe vaccines cause Autism or other unrelated conditions.

Here is why I will still support a reasonable amount of vaccination:

  1. My Uncle had (has) polio. It robbed him of the use of one arm but not of his intellect and gives him a long list of continuing symptoms. He speaks 4 languages fluently and has taught in public schools.
  2. My Mother had diphtheria. This may or may not have contributed to her developing non-small cell lung cancer as an adult.

They were children before most vaccines. You do take a risk in vaccinating and in not vaccinating. Just because you live in the USA does not mean you are immune from Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Diphtheria, TB (no vaccine?!?), Malaria (dang, why isn’t there a vaccine for that?!?), Meningitis, Tetanus, Hepatitis B and possibly even Polio. Thank God we do not have the menace of smallpox!

I will add here that I think the Chicken Pox vaccine is a little too much. It may wear off right at the time where children may become seriously ill with the disease. I would much rather have all my children come down ill with it and be naturally immune than suffer later on in life under false security. The yearly flu shot is also debatable.

My Autistic nature, whether magnified or lessened through diet, is an integral part of my personality and mental organization. There are many things I would not be able to do if I were not autistic. If my children inherit autistic tendencies, so be it. They will be the “Beautiful Minds” of tomorrow. Now I will go enjoy my Beautiful Mind outside in the sunshine. 🙂

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11 Responses to “My Thoughts on Vaccines”


  1. 1 aimee April 10, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    I agree with you 100%.

  2. 2 Annie April 11, 2008 at 7:44 am

    I guess it depends on whose experience you are looking at. I agree with you that vaccines are important. However, I have a child who is recovering from environmentally induced autism. He had an onslaught of early intervention to save his life. His lungs were not developed. His immune-system had an initial struggle. Therefore, when he received the truckload of vaccinations his first couple of years, he did not develop properly. We have seen a medical specialist who has run many types of testing and he DOES have toxic levels of mercury and other metals in his system. He did have a damaged stomach from the live strain of measles that has lived in his system since his vaccine. We are working through this all (for the past 2 1/2 years now), and by the gracious hand of God, we are seeing recovery! In the future of any children the Lord would see fit to give us, I would vaccinate, but on a much safer time line. There are resources out there to do it safely!

  3. 3 cbrunette April 11, 2008 at 8:24 am

    Annie,

    I agree with you that the current medical scheduling of vaccines is too early! Babies are still developing their immune systems until a year old or longer. I would not even think of loading their bodies with live strains until after that year old mark. When I looked back on my “baby book” of shots I received, they didn’t start until after I was around 7 months. And I was breastfed until 18 months, which helped a lot.

    My hesitancy is with “environmentally-induced” autism. This is a terribly tricky thing to pin down. Genetics testing (and brain scan studies) have been rather conclusive that Autism Spectrum Disorders have a hereditary nature. Whether or not the genes are expressed more profoundly due to environmental affects is yet to be proven.

    While I am happy that your son has had improvement in his health and daily quality of life, I would encourage you to view autism as something from which he will not totally “recover.” What will happen, possibly, is that one day he may not be able to accomplish something “normal” and be overcome with guilt or become depressed. Instead of receiving reasonable accommodations for their autistic traits, many autistics become even more “dysfunctional” as they view themselves as failures to “function”. I would not wish any extra suffering (or the suffering I have experienced) on any human soul.

    I would encourage you to read this lady’s blog: Joy of Autism

    ~Anna

  4. 4 Mrs. Amy Brigham April 11, 2008 at 10:36 am

    I do agree with you for the most part. Peapod has not been vaxed as of yet, but likely will be in the future, especially as Sean’s Army career will likely be moving us overseas at some point. There are certain diseases that I have researched and may feel comfortable with the “risk” factor here in the States, but if we were to be traveling in different countries, the “risk” is much greater. The flu shot and chicken pox shots seem absurd to me, and we will be avoiding these for her, as well as the new additions like Guardasil and whatever else might be joining the vax schedule in the near future. New medications, food additives, and so on always leave me more than a little cautious.

    I’m really uncomfortable with the constant focus on autism in many “natural” this or that and vax debates, for many of the reasons you mention in the your comment above, Anna. This month of “awareness” and “finding the cure” has also left me a little heartsick. My mom has been blessed to work with autistic children in the past, and spending time with these children was a very special experience for me. There was one little boy in particular who touched my heart deeply, and taught me so very much, even though we only spent a single afternoon together.

  5. 5 aimee April 11, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    I agree with you too Amy, I have never had my children get the flu vacicne or chickenpox. I mean really….it is a little much for me! I also have serious problems with the HPV (I think that is Guardasil??) vacicne, especially if they are making it manditory for all teen age girls (I have 4 daughters, and they will not be vaccinated for HPV).

    Of the other vaccines, my children have had them, and I don’t have any probelms with them. I got Whoping Cough as an adult (did you know as you get older that vaccine wears off) and I can honestly see why it would be deadly to a small child. I was very, very sick for many weeks!

    Anyway, there are a lot of differing oppions on this subject, it is interesting to hear what other have to say.

  6. 6 Annie April 11, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    I would like to explain a little about the environmentally-induced autism. It is a fact that Blake’s system took in too much, too soon. I am not saying that is the only cause. I do believe his system was created to be a little more sensitive to it. I am not hoping to “cure” him. I am, however, thrilled beyond an earthly joy to be able to see a child communicate with words and expressions, when before there were only screams and violence. He had such a storm going on in his system, I am sure he would not be in the same place today without many interventions. I have learned miles and miles of lessons from my son (and typically developing daughter, who did have all of the same vax’s) and would not change him for the world. He is a child full of sweet love for his family and with an innocence about him that is lost in a lot of the world around us! I have taken him out of the “system” and home school both of my children, because I never wanted to hold them up to anyone’s standards. He was quite stressed out trying to “catch-up” in a classroom. I am blessed to be his mother and am only looking to help him heal his body!! As well as I said, I do believe in vax’s, just in a safe way!!! I appreciate all of the words of insight that you all have shed on this topic! Take care!

  7. 7 Christine April 11, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    This is such an interesting topic for me. I hear so many people speak about not having their children vaccinated. I was never really able to understand why someone would not do it. Now I respect people who decide not to do it of course but I think you have to look at each vaccination on it’s own and base it on that.

    Such as the flu shot. I got it one year when I was pregnant with #2 because my pulmenary specialist was very concerned that because I have asthma that if I was to get the flu while pregnant would be deadly. So I caved. Maybe it was pregnancy hormones LOL! So I ended up getting SO sick it was unreal. I never got sick like that again and believe you me I never did that flu shot again. I have never subjected my children to that shot either because I think it’s just not necessary. It is pushed everytime I take them to the doctor and it really upsets me.

    I do agree however that children are vaccinated way to early. I don’t see why they need them so early. Maybe because if the child is going to be in a school environment it puts them at a higher risk? I don’t know.

    Another problem which I encountered was school. My children are not homeschooled so you basically have to have all their shots updated every year. Basically when you send your kids to school you don’t have much of a choice.

    This is a big asset for homeschooling parents because you don’t have to cave at what the school requires your children have before they can even set foot in the school.

    I also agree with the chickenpox one not really being necessary. My 2 boys have yet to get the chickenpox so it makes me wonder… did they even get it? Yes they both had that vaccine. I would never know if they asked me when they get older if they actually had chickenpox because I’ve never seen it.

    Great topic! God Bless!
    Christine

  8. 8 alana April 11, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    After my first child, I had my kids vaccinated on a delayed schedule, skipping the newer vaccines such as chickenpox.

    If they get to be teens and have not caught it, I’ll take them to get the chickenpox vaccine then.

    My oldest has Asperger’s Syndrome, and she is a delight. I wouldn’t want her to be any different than she is. We’ve tried the special diets, with the only difference being she lost too much weight, and she’s had mercury levels tested…all normal. My husband is nerdy and geeky and so am I, so she comes by it all rather naturally. If various therapies help people to cope, that’s great…but IMO the basic brain wiring differences are there in folks on the spectrum from neurotypicals, and it doesn’t seem like those differences are bad at all. Speaking as an NT who is married to someone who is self-identified “on the spectrum”, with at least half my kids somewhere on the spectrum, (but only one officially dx’d.) I hope my comments do not offend.

  9. 9 Lydia April 13, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Hi – I want to add just a word about the chicken pox. I never had them as a child although I was exposed at least several times for sure. Then, when I was 26 years old and over eight months pregnant, I got them. I didn’t know anyone with the chicken pox at that time, so it must have been a brief, random exposure. My son was born while I had active chicken pox. Lots of babies born in this situation die, and others need powerful drugs that can cause brain damage. It can also be dangerous if a pregnant woman gets chicken pox during the first three months. My son developed chicken pox at ten days old. Again, a potentially dangerous situation. My son and I recovered without a problem. Through all that, my two and half year old daughter did not get the chicken, despite being heavily exposed to my son and me. As soon as the vaccine was legal, I got her vaccinated.

    Last year where I work, we had a few cases of chicken pox in adults. One of the women who got it actually died. Chicken pox is not harmless, not all the time.

  10. 10 Geri April 13, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    I agree with you on this. My Doctor just said when we talked about it “if you saw a child with any of the illnesses that we vaccine against you wouldn’t ever consider not vaccinating”. I also agree with you on the Chicken Pox vaccine. I had the Chicken Pox as a child and they were no different than being covered in mosquito bites for awhile. I know that there are rare cases when some people react badly to CP but I think with technology today if a child were to get CP and react badly all a parent would have to do is take them to the hospital to be taken care of (at least I hope that technology is enough to fight off a bad case of CP). I was a little upset when I took my son to get his vaccines and (at the 3rd vaccination I think) the Nurse went ahead and did the vaccines and only after told me that she had gone ahead and done the CP vaccine also (even though it is optional and she never even asked).

  11. 11 lewella May 29, 2008 at 10:07 am

    The Chickenpox vaccine should be given to older kids or adults who have not had the disease. I never had the vaccine, then got chickenpox when I was 17 and was sick as a dog for two weeks and had skin complications for years afterwards.


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